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Chaz and Oasis

Postby swmartian » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:29 pm

So, now that Torg has Chaz in hand........

We know that Torg thinks that she's innocent, but does Chaz?

While Torg has learned to use Chaz like a real swordsman, what does it take to kill when Chaz is powered? That is, will a scratch do it? I seem to recall that happened to an 'innocent' in the Dimension of Lame??

And if Oasis is killed by Chaz, will she die permanently? While I did pose it as a question, I'm essentially speccing that result... I recall that we've discussed Chaz and Oasis before - has that spec been put out there previously?
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby randomlanguage » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:56 pm

The prospect of Oasis wielding Chaz rather terrified me, but I never speculated on what would happen to her if hurt/killed by Chaz.

I can't remember, has Torg ever been surprised at who Chaz though was innocent?

Would she die permanently? I don't know. Has anyone ever been killed by him that had been able to regenerate prior to being killed? I'm not sure if the zombies count, and certainly Zhoas "lived" on after.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby yurak » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:58 pm

Torg has been "failed by blood" at least once.
I think it was when Naw attacked the gang and ate Sam. Shortly after that event Torg fought the shadow demon with a powered Chaz.

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Checked that out and it wasn't the pre Tunisia fight. I remember Torg running past a dead body and hoping to power the blade and being foiled.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby Thom Solo » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:56 pm

yurak wrote:Checked that out and it wasn't the pre Tunisia fight. I remember Torg running past a dead body and hoping to power the blade and being foiled.

You may be thinking of these two strips.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby swmartian » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:26 pm

randomlanguage wrote:I'm not sure if the zombies count, and certainly Zhoas "lived" on after.

Well, I was initially thinking that they don't. Zombies and vampires are undead - that is they are dead, and yet "live" rather than being alive, dying, and resurrecting. On the other hand, we were privy to Orsintos' research on ghosts... ...and implications that the research was somehow tied in to the Oasis story. So I guess that until we understand more about what Oasis is, and what she isn't, the question is likely premature.

I just have a strong feeling that Chaz will somehow write the final chapter on Oasis. But at this point, I haven't the foggiest idea what that would mean - and I rarely seem to be able to guess what Pete is up to, so the feeling probably means diddly-squat anyway.

As for the innocent powering Chaz... There is a difference between thinking someone is innocent and being surprised that Chaz is not powered up and hoping that blood is innocent enough to power Chaz. I don't remember Torg ever being surprised at who did or did not power up Chaz.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby yurak » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:17 pm

Thom Solo wrote:
yurak wrote:Checked that out and it wasn't the pre Tunisia fight. I remember Torg running past a dead body and hoping to power the blade and being foiled.

You may be thinking of these two strips.


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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby migB » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:19 am

There was also something in the dimension of Lame.
Someone having a rather bad reputation was deemed innocent, Chaz saying something to the effect that even the worst people in DoL are innocent enough.

And there has been a LOT of spec about Chaz killing the innocents that power him.
Especially if Zoe would survive being his power-source.
So far every power-up has been from a person that was already dead.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby yurak » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:33 pm

Demonic dogs

Torg killed them, but least 1 (of 2) was "innocent".

Has anybody ever "donated" blood to Chaz (eg Torg's suggestion of breaking a person's nose).

If I recall correctly Chaz has warned Torg that even the finest cut could/would kill him (no sword hugz).
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby slightlylooney » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:52 pm

A random and terrifying thought just came to mind: What if Oasis was able to "power-up" Chaz without needing the blood of the innocent?

That would be as good a reason as any to keep her away from Chaz.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby swmartian » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:37 pm

yurak wrote:Has anybody ever "donated" blood to Chaz (eg Torg's suggestion of breaking a person's nose).

Technically, no. However, there was the time when they got caught in the spirit realm and Zoë wished for the room to be filled with innocent blood. We don't know whether innocent blood somehow can be separate from life - or where that much innocent blood came from if it must be associated with a body somehow.... So ultimately we don't know whether it was "alive" innocent blood (as it would be if 'donated'), "dead" innocent blood, or something neither dead nor alive - in which case it shouldn't matter.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby yurak » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:20 am

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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby randomlanguage » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:49 pm

slightlylooney wrote:A random and terrifying thought just came to mind: What if Oasis was able to "power-up" Chaz without needing the blood of the innocent?

That would be as good a reason as any to keep her away from Chaz.


That would be terrifying! But even if she needed innocent blood, Torg admitted there are innocents at Hereticorp.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby Wrock » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:51 am

I'd still like to know what is considered "innocent".

If I accuse CaesarSalad of being in league with the communists, and he's not, that would mean he's innocent of that charge.
If a conflict between Mercia and Trent were to wipe out a village that had taken no side, those people would be innocent.
Then there's the whole "age of innocence" thing in several religions

But do any of those fit Chaz definition?
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby randomlanguage » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:56 pm

Wrock wrote:I'd still like to know what is considered "innocent".



I suspect that the only one who can answer that question is Chaz himself.
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Re: Chaz and Oasis

Postby Dodger77 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:18 am

Aw man. I miss CasesarSalad.
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