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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:47 am 
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yurak wrote:

On a tangent question.

Did we ever find out Torg's pawn 2&3?


I looked around a bit and couldn't find any explicit mention, but that doesn't mean they haven't been mentioned.

This is what I found on screens and some mentions, and correct me if I am wrong:

Queen –Oasis
King –Riff
Rook 1- Crushestro
Rook 2—Brain Digbot
Knight 1 –Izzy
Knight 2—Noah Zark
Bishop 1 –Aylee
Bishop 2—Gwynn

Pawn 1- Teresa
Pawn 2
Pawn 3
Pawn 4 -Percy
Pawn 5 – Chen
Pawn 6 –Strom
Pawn 7 –Sharon Gall
Pawn 8 –Pang Legacy Group (Mutants)

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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:26 am 
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randomlanguage wrote:
yurak wrote:

On a tangent question.

Did we ever find out Torg's pawn 2&3?


I looked around a bit and couldn't find any explicit mention, but that doesn't mean they haven't been mentioned.

This is what I found on screens and some mentions, and correct me if I am wrong.

Without repeating the big list that's the same as what I got. I was curious to if Torg announced them, because I think they may be an ace up his sleeve.

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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:58 pm 
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yurak wrote:
randomlanguage wrote:
yurak wrote:

On a tangent question.

Did we ever find out Torg's pawn 2&3?


I looked around a bit and couldn't find any explicit mention, but that doesn't mean they haven't been mentioned.

This is what I found on screens and some mentions, and correct me if I am wrong.

Without repeating the big list that's the same as what I got. I was curious to if Torg announced them, because I think they may be an ace up his sleeve.

Right.

It prompts me to consider who it might be...who else is around/involved? I'd doubt he'd dare consider Bun Bun a pawn...
Hmmm... Sam and Zohas are out of commission.
What about Squishydodo? He does have a "2" on his uniform (though we know that those numbers don't necessarily mean what we'd assume).

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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 2:17 pm 
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randomlanguage wrote:
It prompts me to consider who it might be...who else is around/involved? I'd doubt he'd dare consider Bun Bun a pawn...
Hmmm... Sam and Zohas are out of commission.

Sam is not out of commission - just out of communication. In fact, the last time that we saw Sam, there was a suspicious-looking spider crawling around........

Just sayin'....

That said, I don't think that Torg is aware that his friend is back in good form - so no, Sam is not Pawn 2 or 3.

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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 2:18 pm 
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Sam and his Cirkla is a wary ally at best. Uncontacted by Torg.
Bun Bun isn't really part of the thing and do you really want Bun Bun & Oasis together again?
Strom is "inactive", aka not found/contacted
PLG are the same as Strom
Sharon Gall was approached by Gwynn and I can't recall where that lead (if anywhere)
Rammer is dead. As much as I like saying it DotN Rammer got whacked.
I'm trying to think of random contacts from the past since Percy was a tenuous link
I've always wondered if Drake & Tyler would come back to help

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 Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:41 pm 
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I expect by the end of this month Sasha will have mentioned the name "Berk" and revealed that her parents are Drake and Tyler.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:45 pm 
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Lord Golbez wrote:
Tunisia was the place though. Are you saying it was also the name of a project?


I found it. I was wrong, it wasn't hC, it was the Chilus cult. But the way they referred to it at the time made it sound like they weren't talking about the place, but using it as a codename for something else. That's how it got mixed up in my head.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:12 am 
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Riff certainly got to the hotel pretty quickly.

How did Chen discover how close the rebirthing site was? By how long it took Oasis to get there.

How did Hereti Corp just learn how close Riff's base was? By how long it took him to get there.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:15 am 
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Kesandru wrote:
I expect by the end of this month Sasha will have mentioned the name "Berk" and revealed that her parents are Drake and Tyler.


That would be awesome.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:16 am 
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The difference is Chen had multiple data points.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:39 am 
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Lord Golbez wrote:
The difference is Chen had multiple data points.


You only need one instance for a task like this.

1 - the location of where Sasha is.
2 - time from the call (roughly)
3 - time that Riff arrived.
Optional - what vehicle did Riff show up in, to allow for max speed. Factor in some decision times, and bam! You've got a rough radius. Albeit larger than the rebirthing site radius, most likely.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:19 am 
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Spirantz wrote:
You only need one instance for a task like this.

1 - the location of where Sasha is.
2 - time from the call (roughly)
3 - time that Riff arrived.
Optional - what vehicle did Riff show up in, to allow for max speed. Factor in some decision times, and bam! You've got a rough radius. Albeit larger than the rebirthing site radius, most likely.


But perhaps this is why Riff took the scenic route?
(but in saying that, it prompted me to fear that Torg won't have thought of that, and will be heading there by the fastest route, negating Riff's caution)

As for what's in the lobby, I'm going to guess that either he knows Torg is down there or he assumes Torg will follow him...

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 Post Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:53 am 
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randomlanguage wrote:
Spirantz wrote:
You only need one instance for a task like this.

1 - the location of where Sasha is.
2 - time from the call (roughly)
3 - time that Riff arrived.
Optional - what vehicle did Riff show up in, to allow for max speed. Factor in some decision times, and bam! You've got a rough radius. Albeit larger than the rebirthing site radius, most likely.


But perhaps this is why Riff took the scenic route?
(but in saying that, it prompted me to fear that Torg won't have thought of that, and will be heading there by the fastest route, negating Riff's caution)

As for what's in the lobby, I'm going to guess that either he knows Torg is down there or he assumes Torg will follow him...


Scenic route - a common figure of speech. But still within maybe half a day's drive Vs somewhere else in the world.
And they might have been in the same car. We don't know these things. But they can certainly narrow things down a lot.

On the plus side, if they use the search satellites, the casino is hidden in plain sight. It'd be hard to pinpoint.

That's what I'd do, anyway, even if Sasha didn't do so.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:00 pm 
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Gwynn's "What took you so long?" was definitely a giveaway Riff probably didn't want to deal with, but ultimately it's not that important. As Izzy said, the entire operation's leadership and a high-value-target are all in one place right now. Where they drove from would quickly become a moot point if this was a trap.

The troubling fact is, we don't actually know much about Sasha at all. Maybe she's deeply loyal to HC for some reason, and has so little remorse for what she's done in their name, that she'd burn an old flame twice just to get an advantage. Or maybe she's been working for some other organization all along, and her role in HC was chosen to align her with Torg not to benefit HC but to benefit...something else? Who knows. I'm leaning toward this being Sasha's moment to reveal a deeper motive for all this, if only to drag a modicum of redemption out of her previous betrayal. That might be a bit too optimistic for a chapter titled "Falling" and a subchapter titled "Silencer", but we'll see.

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 Post Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 7:57 am 
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Yodimus_Prime wrote:
The troubling fact is, we don't actually know much about Sasha at all.


Yeah, that is the troubling part. Not that she's done bad things necessarily. Other "bad" people have done bad things, but we know why, so the uncertainty is not there.
She's never said much about her background. We only know what she has done. She's never been a point-of-view character...


Yodimus_Prime wrote:
I'm leaning toward this being Sasha's moment to reveal a deeper motive for all this, if only to drag a modicum of redemption out of her previous betrayal. That might be a bit too optimistic for a chapter titled "Falling" and a subchapter titled "Silencer", but we'll see.


I hope for that too! I keep forgetting about those titles though...and now I'm more troubled. Who is being silenced? Is someone silencing someone? I don't know.

But I'm with Gwynn--I don't feel comfortable leaving Riff alone there.

And what "counters" is Torg talking about? What "counters" do they have to Sasha attacking Riff alone in the hotel room?
Alas, that this is the cliffhanger for the week and we must wait until Monday!

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